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]]> By: Some People! http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/comment-page-1/#comment-115623 Some People! Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:34:30 +0000 http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/#comment-115623 Scheherez, my friend...you know NOTHING of music. You're sad definition only exposes your ignorance on the topic. Please refrain and come back after you get educated. Music does NOT have to have "notes" nor does it require a melody; it would take seconds to demonstrate that to you. Chord progressions!??? Really? So all the pre-Renaissance literature is now NOT music? Music is simply "organize sound". Oddly, the definition of speech is the nearly the same. Sorry if this is beyond your grasp. Scheherez, my friend…you know NOTHING of music. You’re sad definition only exposes your ignorance on the topic. Please refrain and come back after you get educated. Music does NOT have to have “notes” nor does it require a melody; it would take seconds to demonstrate that to you. Chord progressions!??? Really? So all the pre-Renaissance literature is now NOT music?

Music is simply “organize sound”. Oddly, the definition of speech is the nearly the same. Sorry if this is beyond your grasp.

]]> By: J Saragoza http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/comment-page-1/#comment-115605 J Saragoza Wed, 11 May 2011 02:54:43 +0000 http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/#comment-115605 Music consists of physical sounds emanating waveforms. In music there often is "harmony" which isn't melody, through bass which often isn't melody. What is really meant is that music is an assembly of not too complicated equal tempered pitches(maybe)that make me comfortable. But that perspective eliminates a complete body of "music" from the past when it was common to people to listen to what was easy in their time and culture (e.g. early Japanese music consisting of in between tones). Meantone temperament was used in the Renaissance. Use that tuning today and it will sound out of tune for many listeners. So what many want is comfortable music. Comfortable job, comfortable house, comfortable car. It's ironic that anybody can listen to 4:33 at anytime of the day unknowingly and be comfortable with the sounds around them, but tell them to listen and call it music (which Cage did) and they become uncomfortable. What it really says is something about a person and not about music. Music is an art and like all arts it's a vehicle for reflection. Music consists of physical sounds emanating waveforms. In music there often is “harmony” which isn’t melody, through bass which often isn’t melody. What is really meant is that music is an assembly of not too complicated equal tempered pitches(maybe)that make me comfortable. But that perspective eliminates a complete body of “music” from the past when it was common to people to listen to what was easy in their time and culture (e.g. early Japanese music consisting of in between tones). Meantone temperament was used in the Renaissance. Use that tuning today and it will sound out of tune for many listeners. So what many want is comfortable music. Comfortable job, comfortable house, comfortable car. It’s ironic that anybody can listen to 4:33 at anytime of the day unknowingly and be comfortable with the sounds around them, but tell them to listen and call it music (which Cage did) and they become uncomfortable. What it really says is something about a person and not about music. Music is an art and like all arts it’s a vehicle for reflection.

]]> By: Scheherez http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/comment-page-1/#comment-115565 Scheherez Wed, 19 Jan 2011 05:08:35 +0000 http://classicalconvert.com/2007/07/the-stupidest-music-lawsuit-ever-infringing-on-cages-433/#comment-115565 That is STILL not music! As stated before... Music has NOTES! A MELODY! Coughing is NOT a MELODY! Neither is a turning page! What note is that? Z suspended? Someone should come back to me when he can write sheet notation for this piece...WITH ACTUAL NOTES!!!!! And CHORD PROGRESSIONS TOO! Yeh...again, silence is NOT music! That is STILL not music! As stated before…

Music has NOTES! A MELODY!

Coughing is NOT a MELODY! Neither is a turning page! What note is that? Z suspended?

Someone should come back to me when he can write sheet notation for this piece…WITH ACTUAL NOTES!!!!! And CHORD PROGRESSIONS TOO!

Yeh…again, silence is NOT music!

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